X-Touch Compact Function Key buttons.

  1. #1 by Miguel Campos on 07-11-2018
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    X-Touch Compact Function Key buttons.

    Hello all,

    I have been studying and learning actively about the X-Touch Compact and the way it can help my workflow with Nuendo.

    I was thinking of customizing a few of the 3 top "solo/mute/select" buttons by changing their commands in Nuendo, through the configuration of the F keys in the Mackie Control table inside Nuendo.

    I just don't know which are the Function keys and their order on the X-Touch Compact.

    Any ideas?

    Thank you
  2. #2 by Kevin Maxwell on 07-11-2018
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    - Miguel Campos wrote View Post
    Hello all,

    I have been studying and learning actively about the X-Touch Compact and the way it can help my workflow with Nuendo.

    I was thinking of customizing a few of the 3 top "solo/mute/select" buttons by changing their commands in Nuendo, through the configuration of the F keys in the Mackie Control table inside Nuendo.

    I just don't know which are the Function keys and their order on the X-Touch Compact.

    Any ideas?

    Thank you
    Do you have the Quick start guide? https://media.music-group.com/media/...ACT_QSG_WW.pdf
  3. #3 by Miguel Campos on 07-11-2018
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    F Function keys

    Hi Kevin,
    yes, it came with the unit, but I was trying to follow Phil's steps on the video with the Functionality for Logic and if I apply his instructions for Nuendo, encoders 9 and 10 don't seem to work...
    Also, the plugins or VST instruments do not pop up....if the are supposed to....the EQ does not behave the same way....etc,,,,,

    Still investigating everything, but a step-by-step tutorial on using the editor for Nuendo or Cubase would be highly appreciated.

    Thanks
  4. #4 by Kevin Maxwell on 07-11-2018
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    - Miguel Campos wrote View Post
    Hi Kevin,
    yes, it came with the unit, but I was trying to follow Phil's steps on the video with the Functionality for Logic and if I apply his instructions for Nuendo, encoders 9 and 10 don't seem to work...
    Also, the plugins or VST instruments do not pop up....if the are supposed to....the EQ does not behave the same way....etc,,,,,

    Still investigating everything, but a step-by-step tutorial on using the editor for Nuendo or Cubase would be highly appreciated.

    Thanks
    I am sorry, I really wish I could help you with that but I dont use it with a DAW. The X-Touch Compact is very capable and when used in the Standard Mode you can set the controls to do a lot. The trick is you really have to know what settings you need to configure for the device you are controlling. I have never used the MC (Mackie Control mode). Maybe there is someone else on here that can help you or direct you to a video that will help.

    The way I figured out a lot of what was happening with mixers putting out midi and setting things to be controlled by midi was to use Midi-OX and I would hook up the device to my computer with a midi interface and look at the commands that were being sent and then use that information to set up the controller to the right Midi settings.
  5. #5 by Miguel Campos on 07-11-2018
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    X-Touch Compact and Nuendo/Cubase Frustration!

    Hello all,

    Despite having a few friendly replies on my posts, the X-Touch Compact is driving me crazy and I cannot make it control Nuendo the way Phil controls Logic in the video examples.

    I feel that the support is very little in terms of its configuration and setup, specially when it comes to the editor.

    I have been asking for help and no one seemed to be able to help me. I also tried numerous searches over the Internet and no luck.

    Therefore, I am seriously planning to return the unit to Musicstore and switch it for Steinberg's
    CC121.

    Thank you guys.
  6. #6 by Michael Lapke on 07-11-2018
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    - Miguel Campos wrote View Post
    Hello all,

    Despite having a few friendly replies on my posts, the X-Touch Compact is driving me crazy and I cannot make it control Nuendo the way Phil controls Logic in the video examples.

    I feel that the support is very little in terms of its configuration and setup, specially when it comes to the editor.

    I have been asking for help and no one seemed to be able to help me. I also tried numerous searches over the Internet and no luck.

    Therefore, I am seriously planning to return the unit to Musicstore and switch it for Steinberg's
    CC121.

    Thank you guys.
    X-TOUCH COMPACT can only operate in two modes, Mackie Control (MC) mode and MIDI CC mode. As it's been mentioned before, all functionality in MC mode is related directly and exclusively to the way your DAW implements the Mackie Control control protocol.

    In MC mode, X-TOUCH COMPACT will only respond to features that have been implemented in a particular DAW using the MC control protocol. No two DAWs are created equally and each one has the potential to implement MC control in their own way, This is most likely why you're not seeing the same operation in Nuendo as Phil was experiencing in Logic.

    The other mode, MIDI CC, is a user defined/editable mode that can be customized using the X TOUCH EDITOR software found on the Behringer website. In that editor, all faders, button and encoder knobs have a specific function, range and/or value associated with it. You can use MIDI CC commands provided by your DAW (or externally connected hardware) to set values for those functions in the X TOUCH EDITOR software. Once the proper values have been designated, then they should control those specifically defined parameters.

    Hope this sheds some light on things for you, but if you still need addition help then please feel free to contact our CARE team directly so they can walk you through it. You can reach us by phone at 702-800-8290 (US) or +44 1562 732290 (UK) or send us an email to CARECREA@music-group.com and one of our technical CARE specialists will be glad to assist you.

    Michael Lapke
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  7. #7 by Miguel Campos on 07-12-2018
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    Another try

    Ok, Michael, thanks.

    I will give it a try in MIDI mode and see if it confirms my expectations.

    Thx
  8. #8 by Miguel Campos on 07-12-2018
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    A Generic Remote xml file for Cubase / Nuendo

    I remember that a few years ago I used a xml to load as a generic device provided by M-Audio for my Keystation 88 Pro.

    Is there such a file for X-Touch Compact?

    I spent a few hours trying to edit myself one but I got stuck on the encoders because in MC mode some of them move on to the next 8 faders, for example and I don't know how to do that.

    Also, the response inside the DAW is latent (about 1 second).

    I am still giving it a try before I make my mind and switch to another controller. I am not a technician, I am composer....however I do like the structure and feel of this unit. Too bad ist's not working properly so far.

    Thanks

    Thanks
  9. #9 by Michael Lapke on 07-12-2018
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    - Miguel Campos wrote View Post
    I remember that a few years ago I used a xml to load as a generic device provided by M-Audio for my Keystation 88 Pro.

    Is there such a file for X-Touch Compact?
    Not to my knowledge.

    - Miguel Campos wrote View Post
    I spent a few hours trying to edit myself one but I got stuck on the encoders because in MC mode some of them move on to the next 8 faders, for example and I don't know how to do that.
    X-TOUCH COMPACT can only be operated in either MC mode OR MIDI CC mode (referred to as the standard operating mode in the product documentation), but not both at the same time. You will need to make sure you unit isn't booted in MC mode in order to use the X-TOUCH EDITOR software and setup MIDI CC commands.

    - Miguel Campos wrote View Post
    Also, the response inside the DAW is latent (about 1 second
    The response time in your DAW should be instantaneous. So unless your PC's processing is already overburdened with tasks you have running, I'd double check that you have everything setup/configured properly in your DAW. If you need additional help getting setup outside of what is provided in the Quick Start Guide then I'd suggest contacting our CARE department directly so they can walk you through your setup. You can reach us by phone at 702-800-8290 (US) or +44 1562 732290 (UK) or send us an email to CARECREA@music-group.com and one of our technical CARE specialists will be glad to assist you.

    Hope this helps!

    Michael Lapke
    Specialist, Community
    MUSIC Tribe
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