XR18 Aux out direct to wired IEM

  1. #1 by Elizabeth Randolph on 12-13-2017
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    XR18 Aux out direct to wired IEM

    Our drummer said this worked when he tried it the other night. Pulling the headphone plug partially out of an adapter gave him the signal to both ears. It was loud enough even without pushing the aux signal up much. I'm thinking about trying this too. Why do we need a separate headphone amp if we each control our own monitor mix with tablets?
  2. #2 by Phil Toler on 12-14-2017
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    Hi Elizabeth

    Strictly speaking this is a question for the other (X Air) forum but the mods will move if they deem necessary.

    I'm not sure about the thing you described with your drummer but I know for sure that you can connect your XR18 aux outs directly to your wired IEM's using an adaptor such as this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Maxhood-Ste...835FM-XLRFM%29 (Ignore the description of how you connect to a mixer - it's the opposite - female XLR is always an output, not an input!)

    Then you can control the volume and mix with your tablets. The signal will be mono through both ears. The bands I work with use this method quite often.

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  3. #3 by Steve Katsikas on 12-14-2017
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    I've done this with an XR18 and the volume is plenty loud. I used an adapter. The "half plugged in" approach sounds a little tenuous.

    Steve
  4. #4 by Spence Woodford on 12-14-2017
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    - Elizabeth Randolph wrote View Post
    ...Why do we need a separate headphone amp if we each control our own monitor mix with tablets?
    Using a separate headphone amp will enable you to have a stereo IEM mix. The difference between mono & stereo IEM mixes is HUGE (in my experience). I would never go back to a mono IEM mix having had stereo for the past couple of years. If you have the resources available, suggest you try stereo IEM for all.
  5. #5 by Ken Mitchell on 12-14-2017
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    - Spence Woodford wrote View Post
    Using a separate headphone amp will enable you to have a stereo IEM mix. The difference between mono & stereo IEM mixes is HUGE (in my experience). I would never go back to a mono IEM mix having had stereo for the past couple of years. If you have the resources available, suggest you try stereo IEM for all.
    "Using a separate headphone amp will enable you to have a stereo IEM mix. "

    Unfortunately this is not true. The Aux outputs on the XR18 are mono so you'd have to link 2x as a stereo pair which then limits you to 3x IEMs instead of 6x.

    Ken
  6. #6 by Spence Woodford on 12-14-2017
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    - Ken Mitchell wrote View Post
    The Aux outputs on the XR18 are mono so you'd have to link 2x as a stereo pair...
    That's the same on the X32, hence the subsequent comment re: 'sufficient resources'. If there are not sufficient resources available from an XR18, an X32 may be in order...

    Edit: Can you not solo a fourth pair of busses to create a fourth stereo mix (as you can on X32?). Given that there are only 18 inputs, that may be enough for all musicians/users.

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  7. #7 by Ken Mitchell on 12-14-2017
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    - Spence Woodford wrote View Post
    That's the same on the X32, hence the subsequent comment re: 'sufficient resources'. If there are not sufficient resources available from an XR18, an X32 may be in order...

    Edit: Can you not solo a fourth pair of busses to create a fourth stereo mix (as you can on X32?). Given that there are only 18 inputs, that may be enough for all musicians/users.
    Agreed. IEM is somewhat limited on the XR18.

    **Probably why the MODs should move this thread to the XAir forum so we don't confuse the OP.

    There's only 6 mono busses (6 aux outs) + Main LR on the XR18 so no fourth pair of busses.

    Ken
  8. #8 by Michael Lapke on 12-14-2017
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    Sorry for the interruption, just informing you all that I've moved this thread to the X AIR General Discussion section where it belongs. Carry on.

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  9. #9 by Spence Woodford on 12-15-2017
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    - Ken Mitchell wrote View Post
    ...There's only 6 mono busses (6 aux outs) + Main LR on the XR18 so no fourth pair of busses.
    I don't have an XR18, but my reading of the info. is that there are 12 busses in total, so could you not have L/R, Reverb send (2), plus 4 x stereo IEMs for a total of 12? If so, and as we have done on our X32 (different mixer, I know) we then solo one bus pair and use the main headphone out to create an additional IEM send (no need for a separate headphone amp.)
  10. #10 by Craig Fowler on 12-15-2017
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    Last 4x buses are dedicated FX sends, and can't be st-linked; only works as 3x stereo +1x mono if you want to retain FOH functionality. If you want a 4th *stereo* bus, it *has* to be the LR bus. Configuring 4x stereo buses on the XR18 means you essentially lose FOH functionality though.